Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

03/22/2007 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 184 COMMEMORATIVE TROOPS LICENSE PLATE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ HB 13 RETIREMENT SYSTEM LIABILITY/BONDS/CORP. TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 13(W&M) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 171 ACCOMMODATE 90-DAY SESSION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 166 CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PERM. FUND DIVIDENDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 166(STA) Out of Committee
HB 171-ACCOMMODATE 90-DAY SESSION/LEG PROCEDURES                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:16:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  next order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
BILL NO. 171,  "An Act relating to the terms  of legislators, the                                                               
date  and  time  for   convening  regular  legislative  sessions,                                                               
adoption of  uniform rules of  the legislature and to  certain of                                                               
those rules, the  date for organizing the  Legislative Budget and                                                               
Audit Committee, and deadlines for  certain matters or reports to                                                               
be  delivered to  the legislature  or filed;  prohibiting bonuses                                                               
for legislative employees; and providing for an effective date."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:17:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL requested  that Representative Paul Seaton                                                               
be invited  to speak  on the  matter of  a proposed  30-day break                                                               
within a  90-day session, a concept  which Representative Coghill                                                               
said Representative  Seaton initiated.   He mentioned  that there                                                               
was also a legal matter to address.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:17:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL  SEATON, Alaska  State Legislature,  said his                                                               
focus   was  to   accommodate   the  90-day   session  and   meet                                                               
requirements for timing  of incoming and outgoing  members of the                                                               
legislature.   He said  the big question  is how  the legislature                                                               
can  eliminate  25  percent  of  its time  in  Juneau  while  not                                                               
diminish  the  public's  access to  debate  and  notification  of                                                               
legislation  as it  goes  forward.   He  urged  the committee  to                                                               
consider  splitting the  session into  two parts,  with a  31-day                                                               
break  between.   He  stated  that although  the  wording of  the                                                               
initiative  calls  for  a  continuous   90  days,  there  was  no                                                               
campaigning  during the  initiative  process  that would  require                                                               
such continuity.   He said he has spoken to  both sponsors of the                                                               
initiative  that are  still  in the  legislature,  and they  both                                                               
think that  splitting the  session into  two parts  would comport                                                               
with the initiative intent.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  mentioned that the committee  has received                                                               
a  legal  opinion  stating that  the  Alaska  State  Constitution                                                               
permits  the legislature  to modify  an initiative  to make  it a                                                               
workable document,  provided those  modifications do  not violate                                                               
the intent or spirit of the initiative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:19:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  said a [31-day] break  would eliminate the                                                               
number of excused absences.   Furthermore, legislators would have                                                               
more time to meet with  their constituents.  Currently, he noted,                                                               
legislators  take time  off  for the  annual  Energy Council  and                                                               
Easter break;  if the 31-day  break was placed  strategically, it                                                               
could cover that time.  He  explained the reason for stating that                                                               
the  break  would be  31  days  rather  than  30 is  because  the                                                               
legislature would  actually be changing  from 121 to 90,  not 120                                                               
to 90.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:22:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON,  regarding   staff,  said  a  legislative                                                               
employee  currently can  earn a  step increase  related to  wages                                                               
after working  115 days.  He  said there is dispute  over whether                                                               
or not to allow employees a step  increase after 85 days.  If the                                                               
31-day  break was  in  play, session  staff  could stay  employed                                                               
during the  break, and the step  increase would not be  an issue.                                                               
Furthermore,  hiring  staff  through   the  break  would  address                                                               
concerns  that have  been  raised related  to  the difficulty  in                                                               
getting staff to work in Juneau for only 90 days.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:23:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON turned  to the fiscal note  and pointed out                                                               
that  "there's  hardly  any  savings."   He  explained  that  the                                                               
difference between  session per  diem and  long-term per  diem is                                                               
minimal; therefore,  since most  legislators would be  "working a                                                               
good  portion of  this time  on their  own anyway  and collecting                                                               
longer-term per  diem," if  they stayed on  session per  diem, he                                                               
said, they could maintain their  Juneau lodgings, which would not                                                               
disrupt the housing market.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON remarked that  the same level of engagement                                                               
is not achieved when legislators  are spread throughout the state                                                               
participating in meetings via teleconference.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:24:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON directed  attention  to two  of the  legal                                                               
opinions  in committee  packet,  which are  from  Tamara Cook  of                                                               
Legislative Legal and Research Services.   The first, he noted is                                                               
dated March 16,  2007 [and shows "(Work  Order 25-LS0764)" within                                                               
the subject  line].   He cited  the first  sentence of  the first                                                               
paragraph on  the second page,  which read as  follows `[original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     If I  am correct that  the legislature is not  bound by                                                                    
     the  statutory  session  limit under  AS  24.05.150(b),                                                                    
     then  the legislature  is legally  free  to adopt  your                                                                    
     proposed schedule as a  compromise position designed to                                                                    
     limit the  actual number of days  the legislature meets                                                                    
     to 90 days, while allowing  the legislature to wait for                                                                    
     better  revenue  forecasts  before  it  reconvenes  and                                                                    
     finalizes the budget in the spring.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said the second  of the two legal opinions,                                                               
dated March 20, 2007, is in response to the following question:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Could a  statute providing for  a 31-day  recess during                                                                    
     each regular session  constitute the agreement required                                                                    
     under Art. II, sec. 10  of the state constitution for a                                                                    
     recess longer than three days?                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  read part of  Ms. Cook's response  to that                                                               
question, found  in the  last sentence  of the  second paragraph,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     However, so long as both  houses cooperatively abide by                                                                    
     the statute and neither  expresses its determination to                                                                    
     force  the other  house back  into  session, I  believe                                                                    
     that the  statute will serve as  acceptable evidence of                                                                    
     the concurrence  in the  recess by  each of  the houses                                                                    
     under art. II, sec. 10.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:26:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN recognized  Representative Seaton's  having addressed                                                               
the  needs of  the staff,  a  consideration that  is often  times                                                               
overlooked, he indicated.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:26:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  moved to  adopt the  committee substitute                                                               
(CS) for  HB 171, Version  25-LS0653\E, Cook, 3/16/07, as  a work                                                               
draft.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:26:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  objected for  the purpose of  hearing a                                                               
review of Version E.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:27:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  noted that  he will  have recommendations                                                               
to make regarding the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:27:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL reviewed the changes  made by Version E by                                                               
referring  to the  original bill  and pointing  to the  following                                                               
language that  had been deleted:   Page 3, Section 5,  which gave                                                               
the opportunity for each house  to adopt different rules; Page 4,                                                               
Section 8,  which would have killed  any bills not passed  by one                                                               
house within the  first session; Page 6, Section 14  - the entire                                                               
section  - regarding  timeline issues;  and Page  6, Section  15,                                                               
requiring the administration's budget by January.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:29:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG removed  his  objection  to Version  E.                                                               
There  being  no further  objection,  Version  E was  before  the                                                               
committee as a work draft.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[HB 171 was heard and held.]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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